Permanent leaving = ban reason?

[jet-ti]

Hello Guys,
just played 2 Games with the same person and he always left the game, when the game just starts after he got killed only 1 time. When i have, lets say 3 repplays with him in it, is this a reason 4 a reset or ban?

[Wandang]

did u try to .end the game?

well if he does that everytime and u present a few replays he could actually be statresettet (in my opinion)

but he needs to play high or league because around 500 xp isnt worthy an reset... he still we be able to play low, so no change. (ban isnt possible in divleague)

[Pthirus_pubis]

did u try to .end the game?

well if he does that everytime and u present a few replays he could actually be statresettet (in my opinion)

but he needs to play high or league because around 500 xp isnt worthy an reset... he still we be able to play low, so no change. (ban isnt possible in divleague)

yup ur right about the ban thing, but i dont see a reset happening no matter the exp there is a penalty for leaving wich in my eyes is way too low, but there is a thread about that matter wich u are welcome to join, the more people complain the higher the chance smth will change ^^

[Aravis]

Now that there is the .lock feature and a 10sec countdown the "technical draw" penalty should be higher.

[hans2]

Hello Guys,
just played 2 Games with the same person and he always left the game, when the game just starts after he got killed only 1 time. When i have, lets say 3 repplays with him in it, is this a reason 4 a reset or ban?

� guess this guy has 0 exp thus it makes no sense to speak about him

[D.W.M.C]

Now that there is the .lock feature and a 10sec countdown the "technical draw" penalty should be higher.

Agreed.. Make it 90 EXP > 10 EXP for each of the other players for wasting their time..

[Wandang]

Agreed.. Make it 90 EXP > 10 EXP for each of the other players for wasting their time..

what if some1 creates a new acc to boost his friends (and the enemy)?
just join games and the asshole instaleaves everytime till they have >1k pt. welcome to high! (omfg)

[D.W.M.C]

what if some1 creates a new acc to boost his friends (and the enemy)?
just join games and the asshole instaleaves everytime till they have >1k pt. welcome to high! (omfg)

lol.. gl with that.. thats a 100 games just for someone to get into safehigh.. Not league; safehigh..
If anyone would bother to do so.. Gl..

[Wandang]

lol.. gl with that.. thats a 100 games just for someone to get into safehigh.. Not league; safehigh..
If anyone would bother to do so.. Gl..

well there will be assholes for everything.
i dont want divleague to have the opportunity to ruin safelow and high games.

just make leaver lose around 100 xp + losexp = 200 and there will be rarely leaver in high...

[Pthirus_pubis]

well there will be assholes for everything.
i dont want divleague to have the opportunity to ruin safelow and high games.

just make leaver lose around 100 xp + losexp = 200 and there will be rarely leaver in high...

i like the idea about 90exp for fb leave, but as hans stated more than the actual exp penalty is impossible in started games, as people get free xp games way too fast (wich was already tried and has been removed) the only thing u can do is think of an penalty besides the exp, such as public shown leave %, and some non exp penaltys if u�ve reached a certain %age like not being able to join leage etc

[jet-ti]

Sry 4m y late answers but i was on vacation.

� guess this guy has 0 exp thus it makes no sense to speak about him

Ofc this guy played high. I dont care 4 low games, cause u cant avoid problems with noobs, leavers etc there. This is impossible.
He had about 2500 points. And cause of that, resetting his points would be a good punishment. I was just thinking about a thread in this forum, where u can post replays and the names with the leaving players. And if a guy has 5 reps where he was leaving in the first 15 min only cause he dies a several times an admin can think about to reset his points.
what u think?

[Pthirus_pubis]

can u imagine how unbeliavable many threads and posts that would be noone can check that, the leave is registered in the bot somehow (it remembers if u leave before fb in a row and increases the penalty and u get emails with the information that u left) so that would be way easier, but in the end its the same idea with the leave%age

[jet-ti]

can u imagine how unbeliavable many threads and posts that would be noone can check that...

Well, i playes around 150 div-games and this was the first guys, that i want to punish

So i want a system that works like that...

1. I recognisze a permanent leaver in effekt i can remember his name.
2. From now i will save all the replays where he left games.
3. When i have around 4 or 5 i can post this in the "Perma-Leaver-Thread"
4. An admin decides if he will be resetted.

Ofc u can only post players with around 2000 exp.

Do you really think there will be sooooooooooooooo many Posts? I dont think so.

Btw, i would be ready to be a volunteer who will watch that reps and decide

[Pthirus_pubis]

Well, i playes around 150 div-games and this was the first guys, that i want to punish

So i want a system that works like that...

1. I recognisze a permanent leaver in effekt i can remember his name.
2. From now i will save all the replays where he left games.
3. When i have around 4 or 5 i can post this in the "Perma-Leaver-Thread"
4. An admin decides if he will be resetted.

Ofc u can only post players with around 2000 exp.

Do you really think there will be sooooooooooooooo many Posts? I dont think so.

Btw, i would be ready to be a volunteer who will watch that reps and decide

i think that about noone will expect this to work, u can expect that 99% of all requests will end in a discussion like u wouldnt believe and even if it would work fine in ur imagination and in ur case, just look at the amount of requests for exp reset that are absolutly laughable, in the end you have to treat 90% of all people like 7 year olds... if u have a solution always ask urself "would this work with a bunch of total fuckwits" and if u can say yes it probably would its a good idea ^^ but ur idea (even tough it might would work if div-leage would consist of trustworthy usefull people of human society) doesnt has much hope fear

[jet-ti]

Well i dont want to sound ignorant but...
can u pls discus on a higher level. What u r wrote is absolutely pointless.

i think that about noone will expect this to work, u can expect that 99% of all requests will end in a discussion like u wouldnt believe

I wrote nothing about discussion. The admin decides, END!

even if it would work fine in ur imagination and in ur case, just look at the amount of requests for exp reset that are absolutly laughable, in the end you have to treat 90% of all people like 7 year olds...

If u think there will be to many reset requests??? THIS will be the best thing that could happend. Cause u can simply increase the number of minimum replays and u will have a "more objective" situation.

... if u have a solution always ask urself "would this work with a bunch of total fuckwits" and if u can say yes it probably would its a good idea ^^ but ur idea (even tough it might would work if div-leage would consist of trustworthy usefull people of human society) doesnt has much hope fear

I dont get the point, here.

IMO the only Problem will be, that no one will do the afford to save the reps and post them

More opinions pls.

[Pthirus_pubis]

Well i dont want to sound ignorant but...
can u pls discus on a higher level. What u r wrote is absolutely pointless.

I wrote nothing about discussion. The admin decides, END!

If u think there will be to many reset requests??? THIS will be the best thing that could happend. Cause u can simply increase the number of minimum replays and u will have a "more objective" situation.

I dont get the point, here.

IMO the only Problem will be, that no one will do the afford to save the reps and post them

More opinions pls.

1. u would have to upload and check all these replays, wich is a lot of work
2. how long do u think it will take until the community actually got that system, just think about how long it
took at elast 30% to discore that u can disable .leet
3. u can save replays over a long time, 5 leaves in 2 days is smth different than 5 leaves in a month
4. u would have to find someone trustworthy enough for the job, that has the freetime, and trustworthy isnt anyone, there are maybe 2-3 people for that job in this community and its not said that they want to do it
5. if u wouldnt get mass replays it wouldnt solve the problem and if u do its an enormous amount of work
6. its not a fair system as u can expect to get reportet if someone simply hates u for whatever reason, and someone that probably left twice as many games doesnt have to face anything because he has a nick that is hard to remember
7. if hans would want to reset people for leaveing he simply could code smth like a reset for more than x% leave
8. the same thing is done with hacking or abuse reports since its uncodeable, now look all these threads up and see how many usefull threads there are..
9. ofc there will be discussion, there needs to be room for discussion only that way u can make a decent decision, the whole point in ur system is fucked if there is no discussion, as u could simply code it without someone to decide anything, that is the only advantage there is and the bigest problem as well say hello to democracy
10. there arent many people of the league that are actually active in the forum
11. this all would result in banning some randomg fb leavers out of them all, either make a penalty for all or leave it
if ur whole point isnt the discussion to make the reset somewhat fair (for example lagging out is smth different than rageleaving cause of wrong picks) then the only advantage there is over the coding the amount of freetime that u can spend in watching 3 min long replays. But u urself said there shouldnt be any discussion

if u let someone simply decide without listening to the discussion there is no way its close to fair, then u can let the bot decide anyway, u�d actually have to get a picture of any single case, if u dont do that its only looking at numbers wich the bot can do in a split second

[Knight925]

Totally nonsense!

The bot is a program that tracks such things anyway

Making a post about such ppl in the forum is totally useless and work intensive for no reason!

If wished the bot could easily automate this and even would have the exact leaving-time, games between left games and time between left games so the bot could easily do all of that.

But its annother thing if somebody wants to program that or even implement such a thing.

I still think permaban is a little too harsh because u CAN get unlucky

but as mentioned by me in many posts before there TOTALLY NEEDS TO BE a higher leaving penalty!

[Pthirus_pubis]

Totally nonsense!

The bot is a program that tracks such things anyway

Making a post about such ppl in the forum is totally useless and work intensive for no reason!

If wished the bot could easily automate this and even would have the exact leaving-time, games between left games and time between left games so the bot could easily do all of that.

But its annother thing if somebody wants to program that or even implement such a thing.

I still think permaban is a little too harsh because u CAN get unlucky

but as mentioned by me in many posts before there TOTALLY NEEDS TO BE a higher leaving penalty!

i think there are 100 posts about leaving penalty and a lot of possible ideas for a solution... i feel ignored

[Knight925]

so do i ^^

i even opened one once where i packed all the solutions together and rated them with pro-contra ^^
but yes:
got ignored ^^

[Pthirus_pubis]

so do i ^^

i even opened one once where i packed all the solutions together and rated them with pro-contra ^^
but yes:
got ignored ^^

maybe we should sing a song works in most tv-shows like southpark