Runaway 2 and DDraw

[Thib]

Hello,
Using Linux, I tried the demo version under wine. It fails with an error, but I managed, with a quite ugly hack, to get it working.
But after some discussions with wine developpers, it seems Runaway 2 won't work on VMWare, Qemu, Wine ( unmodified ), some video cards, and probably Windows Vista !
Why ? Because you use a strange pixelformat ( 5 red bits, 6 bits of nothing, 5 green bits ).
Can you fix it, with, for instance, R5G6B5 ? If not, some explanations ?

Thanks

PS : I also want to play the full game under wine, but the copy-controll system may don't work

[Pendulo Studios]

I'm afraid to say that I'm not familiar with Linux and Wine so I can't help you on this matter. However, Runaway 2 will work on Windows Vista. I'll pass your information about Linux and Wine to the technical people here.

[Thib]

I'm afraid to say that I'm not familiar with Linux and Wine so I can't help you on this matter. However, Runaway 2 will work on Windows Vista. I'll pass your information about Linux and Wine to the technical people here.

In fact, Runaway 2 isn't compatible with DirectX, but many video cards can handle "custom" pixelformats. But some ( SiS cards, for instance ? ) can't. Emulator's video cards can't handle them too... So, non-windows users, and some windows users can't play runaway 2.

[Pendulo Studios]

Well, I have to say that Runaway 2 is compatible with DirectX. In fact, it needs DirectX to work properly.

[Thib]

Well, I have to say that Runaway 2 is compatible with DirectX. In fact, it needs DirectX to work properly.

I mean... It don't respect DirectX specifications about Pixelformats...

[Pendulo Studios]

Well, I have to say that Runaway 2 is compatible with DirectX. In fact, it needs DirectX to work properly.

I mean... It don't respect DirectX specifications about Pixelformats...

That's too way beyond my understanding, sorry, I'm not a tech guy. However, I'll keep staying that is DirectX compatible; if not, it would not work properly.

[Thib]

Well, I have to say that Runaway 2 is compatible with DirectX. In fact, it needs DirectX to work properly.

I mean... It don't respect DirectX specifications about Pixelformats...

That's too way beyond my understanding, sorry, I'm not a tech guy. However, I'll keep staying that is DirectX compatible; if not, it would not work properly.

It don't work properly with only the software part of DirectX. Anyway, many video cards can handle it.
Please check if it's related to SiS onboard cards issue.

[Pendulo Studios]

Thib, all I can say is that those SIS cards ring a bell and I'm sure the people is working on something regarding that issue. However, don't ask me for details as I don't have them.

[Thib]

I'm currently writing a fonction to convert pixelformats to others, in Wine. So, Wine will soon handle your strange pixelformat.

But I think you're wrong with this pixelformat : You should use only "standard" pixelformats, because DirectX don't handle "custom" ones, but many video card's driver can. I think it is highly related to the SiS issue.

PS : And about the copy-controll protection ? A way to play under linux ?

[Toms]

Hello,

I'm just wondering when RunAway will be "Vista Ready"? I'm currently running Vista RC2 (I'm waiting the RTM Version) but RunAway2 doesn't want to work :/ (Unable to initialize DirectX) and I know someone with almost the same problem (but with vista RTM)...

I copy/paste some info from dxdiag if they can help to find a solution ...

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System Information
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Time of this report: 11/29/2006, 22:16:02
Machine name: TORTANK
Operating System: Windows Vista� Ultimate (6.0, Build 5744) (5744.vista_rtm_edw.061003-1945)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Acer, inc.
System Model: Aspire 1690
BIOS: Phoenix NoteBIOS 4.0 Release 6.1
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.73GHz, ~1.7GHz
Memory: 1022MB RAM
Page File: 869MB used, 1427MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 6.00.5744.16384 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: ATI MOBILITY RADEON X700
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI MOBILITY RADEON X700 (0x5653)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5653&SUBSYS_00661025&REV_00
Display Memory: 382 MB
Dedicated Memory: 126 MB
Shared Memory: 255 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 800 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor
Driver Name: atiumdag.dll,atiumdva.dat,atitmmxx.dll
Driver Version: 7.14.0010.0449 (English)
DDI Version: 9Ex
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 10/25/2006 02:40:18, 2493952 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-1513-11CF-5472-6C20A1C2CA35}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x5653
SubSys ID: 0x00661025
Revision ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C ModeWMV8_B ModeWMV8_A ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
{3C5323C1-6FB7-44F5-9081-056BF2EE449D}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled

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Sound Devices
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Description: Speakers (Conexant AC-Link Audio)
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_266E&SUBSYS_00661025&REV_04
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: camcaud.sys
Driver Version: 6.13.0010.8335 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
Date and Size: 6/25/2004 14:29:58, 34048 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Conexant
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0x0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

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Sound Capture Devices
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Description: Microphone (Conexant AC-Link Audio)
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: camcaud.sys
Driver Version: 6.13.0010.8335 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 6/25/2004 14:29:58, 34048 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x0
Format Flags: 0x0

Description: Line In (Conexant AC-Link Audio)
Default Sound Capture: No
Default Voice Capture: No
Driver Name: camcaud.sys
Driver Version: 6.13.0010.8335 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 6/25/2004 14:29:58, 34048 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x0
Format Flags: 0x0

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System Devices
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Name: ATI MOBILITY RADEON X700
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5653&SUBSYS_00661025&REV_00\4&127 113F0&0&0008
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\atikmdag.sys, 7.01.0001.0537 (English), 10/25/2006 02:53:06, 2068992 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ativcaxx.cpa, 10/1/2006 01:20:17, 328162 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ativcaxx.vp, 10/1/2006 01:20:17, 929 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ativvpxx.vp, 10/25/2006 03:59:55, 35776 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ativpkxx.vp, 10/1/2006 01:20:17, 2096 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ativokxx.vp, 10/1/2006 01:20:17, 2096 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ativdkxx.vp, 8/23/2006 22:26:56, 2096 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ati2erec.dll, 1.00.0000.0009 (English), 10/25/2006 02:12:20, 49152 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiumdag.dll, 7.14.0010.0449 (English), 10/25/2006 02:40:18, 2493952 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiumdva.dll, 7.14.0010.0126 (English), 10/25/2006 02:29:53, 655360 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atitmmxx.dll, 6.14.0011.0015 (English), 10/25/2006 02:43:59, 159744 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiicdxx.dat, 10/19/2006 15:16:05, 138101 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiumdva.dat, 10/25/2006 02:29:41, 3107788 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\Ati2evxx.exe, 6.14.0010.4151 (English), 10/25/2006 02:41:45, 552960 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\Ati2evxx.dll, 6.14.0010.4151 (English), 10/25/2006 02:42:48, 208896 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atipdlxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2513 (English), 10/25/2006 02:43:48, 237568 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\Oemdspif.dll, 6.14.0001.0018 (English), 10/25/2006 02:43:37, 221184 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\ati2edxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2508 (English), 10/25/2006 02:43:25, 42496 bytes

[Thib]

Hello,

I'm just wondering when RunAway will be "Vista Ready"? I'm currently running Vista RC2 (I'm waiting the RTM Version) but RunAway2 doesn't want to work :/ (Unable to initialize DirectX) and I know someone with almost the same problem (but with vista RTM)...

I guess it's because of the invalid pixelformat... If only a programmer for PENDULO would read this topic...

[Toms]

Or a real way to contact them... (Mail ?)